Big news for What About This: Keith is going to be a dad! And he's a little terrified. So he wanted to talk about shame and fear. The guys got into how shame is everywhere and what it means for human beings. They think talking shame helps reduce its power over us and how to create spaces for people to find their true selves. Topics include: shame in parenting, public embarrassment, original sin, church and shame, perception of identity, true self/false self. Be sure to join the conversation with the guys on Facebook @WhatAboutThisPodcast or Twitter @wat_podcast!